In this Q&A, director Steven Spielberg discusses his latest film War Horse.
Steven Spielberg is one of the movie industry‚Äôs most successful and influential filmmakers, as well as a principal partner of DreamWorks Studios. He is the top-grossing director of all time, having helmed blockbusters including Jaws, E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial, the Indiana Jones franchise and Jurassic Park.
For his most recent project, the three-time Academy Award winner traveled to England to shoot the wartime movie, War Horse, based on the novel and Broadway play about a horse on an odyssey during World War I. The distinguished director recently discussed the film and revealed what attracted him to the epic project.
Q: It‚Äôs very rare that a project is successful as a novel, as a play and as a movie ‚Äď but War Horse is all three. Why do you think the story is so versatile?
Spielberg: The bones of the story of War Horse is a love story. That‚Äôs what makes it universal. It was that way in the book and it was certainly that way on the boards in the West End of London. That‚Äôs also what we hoped to create with our movie adaptation.
Q: What makes War Horse unique?
Spielberg: I don‚Äôt often mix my metaphors, so what makes this movie unique is the fact that it‚Äôs a story of love and a story of war. This isn‚Äôt a typical war film. This is not Saving Private Ryan. This isn‚Äôt Band Of Brothers. If you really look at this movie, there are only 12 to 15 minutes of combat from the cavalry charge to the fighting in the Somme. I wanted families to see this picture together. That‚Äôs why there‚Äôs hardly any blood in this movie.
Q: What do you think younger audiences will learn from watching the movie?
Spielberg: Children learn exponentially from media today, so we felt responsible for there to be truth in the history of the first World War in our adaptation. We did a lot of research and the thing that really struck me was the vast number of casualties among the horses. It wasn‚Äôt just the men who died on the American, British, French and German side ‚Äď but there was a huge number of casualties among the horses, too. I think kids will be interested to learn that this was the era where the machine ‚Äď the tank, the airplane and even chemical warfare ‚Äď all converged. It was almost like an experimental war. It was the war to end all wars. At least, that‚Äôs what they thought back then.
Q: Why do you have such a fondness of telling historical stories?
Spielberg: I love history. To be honest, it was the only subject I did well at in school. I‚Äôm not ashamed to admit I was not a good student, but I was great at history. My dad fought in World War II and he turned 95 in 2012. He was based in Karachi, which is now Pakistan, and he fought in Burma against the Japanese ‚Äď and I used to love it when he told me war stories. I grew up hearing them. My first 8-millimeter movies when I was 13, 14 and 15 years old were mostly about war. They were mostly World War II movies. Another point to add is that war throws characters into chaos. There‚Äôs no better way to test a person than to put them in the middle of a war. That‚Äôs clearly going to show what kind of a character you‚Äôre telling a story about.
Q: What made the young actor Jeremy Irvine ‚Äď who plays Albert Norcross in the movie ‚Äď stand out during the casting process for War Horse?
Spielberg: I looked at hundreds of potential Alberts, but Jeremy Irvine stood out because he had an ineffable quality that certain stars have ‚Äď or certain exceptional people have ‚Äď that makes them stand out and rise above the rest. I looked at hundreds of very interesting actors and newcomers, but nobody had the heart or the spirit or the communication skills that Jeremy had. He possessed those qualities even in silence, even without speaking. Jeremy tested five times and he got better and better. I‚Äôm very accustomed to working with actors who have no experience. You can look back at E.T. with Drew Barrymore and Christian Bale in Empire Of The Sun to see that. They had never made a movie before, but I see a very similar career in store for Jeremy.
Q: What is the appeal of newcomers?
Spielberg: Often what happens is you get a newcomer in front of the camera and they freeze up or they imitate actors and other performances they‚Äôve admired and they stop becoming themselves. My job as a director is always to return them to what I first saw in them, which was simply an uncensored human being. I really trust the authenticity of real people and my job is to get them to be themselves in front of the camera.
Q: The movie doesn‚Äôt shy away from the fact that many horses suffered during World War I. How did you manage to portray this without harming any animals?
Spielberg: Nothing was ever done to the horses to put them under any stress. That was very, very important to all of us. Bobby Lovgren is the name of the man who trained the horses and guarded the horses ‚Äď and it was incredibly important to him to keep them safe and protected. We also had a woman from the Humane Society on set every single shooting day. When I first met Barbara, I said to her, ‚ÄúYou‚Äôve got the power over me.‚ÄĚ She replied, ‚ÄúWhat do you mean?‚ÄĚ I said, ‚ÄúIf you ever see an animal under any kind of duress, you can say ‚ÄėCut.‚Äô‚ÄĚ I gave her the chance to stop a take or to even stop a take from even being taken.
Q: There is a glorious old-fashioned feel to War Horse. Did you dip into childhood memories of directing heroes like John Ford when you were making the movie?
Spielberg: Yes, of course. My heroes are John Ford, Howard Hawks, Raoul Walsh, David Lean, Lewis Milestone, Victor Fleming, Michael Curtiz ‚Äď and many more than that, too. It goes beyond American directors because this is a very British film, so I was incredibly inspired by Britain. At the same time, the works of John Ford in How Green Was My Valley and The Quiet Man were very evocative. He painted beautiful landscapes and he included the land as part of his storytelling, so how could we not include Devon and Dartmoor in this picture? The land was a character itself and in a sense, that‚Äôs what a lot of the old directors did ‚Äď they featured the land they were standing on. It‚Äôs fun when you get to put on a wide-angle lens and not just shoot close ups for an entire movie.
Q: Scarcely has the English landscape looked so great on film. What were your initial reactions to the movie shoot locations in Devon and Castle Combe?
Spielberg: Castle Combe looks like Hollywood built it. It doesn‚Äôt look real, but it‚Äôs beautiful, it‚Äôs very authentic and it‚Äôs very old. The Devon location has some of the most natural wonders in all of England with its beautiful tors. The tors are built up in a very unusual way and I‚Äôve only seen something like this one other time in my life ‚Äď and that was in New Zealand. There‚Äôs nothing in the world like the landscapes of Devon. We couldn‚Äôt believe our eyes.
Q: The English weather is notoriously unpredictable. Did you use any digital manipulation to depict the glorious skies in the movie?
Spielberg: People often tell me how much they love the digital skies that we obviously painted for War Horse. Well, there‚Äôs not a single sky that we put in through special effects. The skies you see in the movie are the skies that we experienced ‚Äď but it was definitely challenging at times. It took three days to shoot the spectacular sunset at the end of the movie because the sun goes down awfully fast in Devon. We had to come back again and again to get matching skies to make that whole sequence work, but it was all worth it.
Q: The music has a huge emotional impact in War Horse. Can you talk about your work with the movie‚Äôs composer, John Williams?
Spielberg: John and I have had a 40-year relationship. We started working together in 1972 on Sugarland Express and he is the most important collaborator I‚Äôve ever had in my career. He‚Äôs made me look good. He‚Äôs made my films look better. I get a lot of credit that really should be going to John.
Q: Do you tend to work with the same creative teams over and over again?
Spielberg: I do, and they now feel like family. [War Horse producer] Kathleen Kennedy has been with me since 1978. My cinematographer, Janusz Kaminski, has made every movie with me since Schindler‚Äôs List. Michael Kahn has cut every motion picture I‚Äôve directed since 1976 when we made Close Encounters together. Rick Carter has worked as a production designer on 15 of my directed films. I really believe in the family of collaboration and so John Williams is certainly no less or no more important than the entire group of all of us. However, Johnny does make a contribution that goes right to your heart. A lot of the contributions of my other collaborators are subliminal. You don‚Äôt really single them out for credit ‚Äď although without them, some of the films wouldn‚Äôt have the impact that they have. John certainly has the most considerable impact because his music immediately bypasses the brain. It goes right to your heart. That‚Äôs the way it‚Äôs always been with him. He‚Äôs an amazing talent.
Q: Your portfolio of movies is incredibly diverse. What is your decision process when you choose a new script?
Spielberg: I‚Äôm not sure I choose my movies; they choose me. I know that might sound glib, but it‚Äôs true. I don‚Äôt go through a torturous intellectual process to decide what to direct. I know when I want to direct the second I read something or the second I hear a story. When it grabs me in a certain way, I know I want to direct it.
Q: Do you think of your children when you choose a new project?
Spielberg: It‚Äôs interesting you ask this question because my daughter Destry had a lot to do with me directing War Horse. She‚Äôs in her teens and she‚Äôs been competitively riding for around 11 years ‚Äď but even before I went to see the play, she said to me, ‚ÄúYou have to make War Horse. You have to make it for me.‚ÄĚ So I did.
Q: Are you familiar with horses? Do you ride?
Spielberg: We have 10 horses at home, and we‚Äôve been living with horses for almost 18 years. In fact, my wife rides dressage ‚Äď and that‚Äôs another reason to qualify me to direct War Horse because I know horses that way. I don‚Äôt ride, but I certainly know how to muck a stable.
War Horse is now available on Blu-ray and DVD.